The 483rd Bomb Group Archive

Loss record

MACR 13819: 44-6877

840th20 April 1945
Aircraft
44-6877 (B-17G)
Mission
mission 210, 20 April 1945
Target
Fortezza, Italy M/Y
Aboard
10
Record
Missing Air Crew Report
Sources
National Archives Catalog, NAID 91146917 (29 pages) · Association aircraft page

Crew, as read from the report

PositionNameRankSerialStatus
PilotKeen, Clarance M. Jr.O-826899RTD
Kirkland, James C.2nd Lt.O-2039258RTD
Mackey, Sanuel Jr.O-718369RTD
Kosinski, Raymond J.O-722498RTD
Moore, William I.38389351
Hajjar, Edward E.11116836MIA
Dobbie, Ira J.33743333
Glynn, Martin J.37575777

Names and serials are the machine's reading of the typed form; a linked name is the man's record.

Statements, questionnaires and capture reports

Eyewitness statement, page 4 · 20 April 1945
CONFIDENTIAL
840TH BOMBARDEENT SQUADRON (H)
48SRD BOMBARDMENT GROUP (H)
Office of the Operations Officer
APO 520
22 April 1945
STATEMENT OF WITNESS
The undersigned wes flying airplane number 42-31651 on the right wing of
Airplane number 44-6877 on 20 April 1945. Airplane number 44-6877 was flying
the number four position in the 840th Squadron box.
About one and one half hours after leaving the departurs point Ship 877
began to drag behind the lead element, and was heard calling airplane 143,
asking that 143 take the number four positi on and let Ship 877 fly number seven
position. The undersigned did not hear any reason given. Approximately one
half hour later the undersigned heard Ship 877 call the formation leader and
ask for fighter escort, saying that two engines had failed and that he Wes returning
to the base.
The undersigned did not at any time see one or more feathered engines on
ship 877, or any other indication of trouble except an obvious imability
to keep up with the formation, and did not see the airplane after it dropped
out on its place in the formation.
JOS L. RUTAN
Capt, AC
N°.
603°
CONFIDENTIAL
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Eyewitness statement, page 5 · 20 April 1945
CONFIDENTIAL
84OTH BOMBARDMENT SQUADRON (H)
483RD BOMBARDMENT GROUP (H)
Office of the Operations Officer
APO 520
22 April 1945
STATEMENT OF WITNESS
On 20 April 1945 I was flying on Lt Keen's wing. About an hour before
he turned back he had dropped out of number four (4) position. This was taken
by Lt Kyker in airplane 143 and Lt Keen in airplane 877 tried to hold number
seven (7) position. He was having difficulty doing this, when he dropped out
he reported that he had lost two (2) engines and was turning back. my
crew reported that his ship appeared to be under control.
RICHARD D. deslauriers,
2nd Lt., Air Corps.
N.
2030
CONFIDENTIAL
chall 3

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Eyewitness statement, page 8 · 20 April 1945
AFFPA- il
File # 15819
INDIVIDUAL CASUALTY QUESTIONNAIRIS
Name of erew member:
WILSON, Charles H.
Rank:
s/Sgt.
Serial number:
85 225 754
Position: Crew (Bomber)
Left Waist Gunner
Did he bail out No
Where?
-
If not, why not? He Asked permission To RemAiN WITH AIRCRAFT
Last contact or conversation just prior to or at time of loss of plane: LAST CONTACT
MAde WHEN we Turned FOR Home BASE ( THE APPROX. day OF 12:00 CRASH Noon)
Was he injured? yes FATALLY
Lying or THE ground AFTER CRASH
Where was he when last seen? AIRSRAFT PITION To ERASH
Any hearsay information: when we creashed,
was THE ONLY one we ARGONNY FOR.
LATER JOHNANDER we KEFI THE
Crushed
beneriting THE PLANE t NONE
Source Patrice main
Any explanation of his fate based in part or wholly on supposition:
Buried in THe Churchyard AT THe LITTLE
TOWN MARIA ELAND, (Appox. 10miles SOUTH OF
VILLACH) AUSTRIA
Total number of missions of above crew member: No Knowledge
Dates and destinations if possible: CRAShed ON A Mission
10 ForTezzA R/Y IN NORTHERN ITAby; ApRIL 20TH 1945
RemARKs : : FOR MORE ACCURATE INFORMATION
CONSERNING THe Two MeN CONSULT. THE
INFORMATION
6-3861, AF
(over)

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Casualty questionnaire, page 10: GLYNN, Martin J · 20 April 1945
AFFPA-11
File # 13819
INDIVIDUAL CASUALTY QUESTIONNAIRE
Name of crew member:
GLYNN, Martin J.
Rank:
5/3gt.
Serial number:
37 575 701
Position: Crew (Bomber)
Ball Gunner
Did he bail out?
NO
Where?
If not, why not? He Asked permission To Remain with THE SHIP
Last contact or conversation just prior to or at time of loss of plane : MAde
when we Relnened FOR Home (APPROX. 12:00 NOON April 20, 1945)
Was he injured?
yes FATALLY
Where was he when last seen? IN THe AIRCRAFT PRioR To CRASH
Any
hearsay information: we crazned, MARTIN GLYNN WAS
AFTER
The ONLY ONE we CONLDN'T ACCOUNT FOR. AT FIRST we THOUGHT
He had escaped but LATER Funnd OUT FROM 4 German Policement
That MARTIN hAd been crushed beneath THE AIRPLANE, where
he was hidden FROM our view (THE PoliceMAN possestsed HIS
dog the 5
Source: GERMAN Policeman
Any explanation of his fate based in part or wholly on supposition:
Buried INTHE ChurchyARd AT THE LITTLE TOWN
MIA RIA ELAND, (APPAOX. 10miner SOUTH OF VILLACH)
AUSTRIA
Total number
of missions of above crew member NO Knowledge
Dates and destinations if possible: CRAShed ON A MISSION To
FOR Tezza R/Y in NORTHERN, ITALY April 20Th 1945
6-3861, AF

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Casualty questionnaire, page 12: KIRKLANd JAMES CARL · 20 April 1945
AFPPA-12
CASUALTY QUESTIONNAIRE
inactive R.S.
1. Your name KIRKLANd JAMES CARL
Rank 2ND IT Serial No. 0-2039258
2. Organization A.C. Gp Commander PAUL BARION Rank CoL Sqn Lso BRooks Rank CAPT.
(full name)
(full name)
3. What year 1945
month april day 20 did you go down?
4. What was the mission, Bombing , target, FORTeZZA R/Y
, target
time, Aporo x. 12:3 o P.M., altitude, 26,000
route scheduled, To CIRCLE
ANd MAKE RUN FROM flown A=1 PLANNed
5. Where were you when you left formation? WesT CenTRAL PORIAN OF THE ALps
6. Did you bail out? NO
7. Did other members of crew bail out? NO
8.
Tell all you know about when, where, how each person in your aircraft for whom no
individual questionnaire is attached bailed out. A crew list is attached. Please
give facts. If you don't know, say: "No Knowledge" NO CREW member
bained ONT, THEY ALL Remained WITH THE ship w hen
it CRASHed
9.
Where
did
your
aircraft
strike
the
ground?
mile
OR
so
ENST
OF
MARIE
ELAND,
PNSIRE
10. What members of your crew were in the aircraft when it struck the ground? (Should
cross check with 8 above and individual questionnaires) Keen , 10017 Kosinski
Tech SgT MOURE, Tech Sg s TAFF Sg (zipanon), STAFF age WILSON
s T4EF sgI GLYNN (THE NAV'S + ONE GUNNAR -I CANNOT REMEMBER THEIR
NAMES)
11.
Where were they in aircraft? Kosinski, 5/69/ MooRe ANd
MY SALF were ON the FLIGHT deck -The REFT in THE Rann
12.
What was their condition? THe FOUR mex on The FLight deck were NOT
enjured From THE Radio ROOM z were killed 3 injured
13. When, where, and in what condition did you last see any members not already des-
cribed above?
THE THREE MEN who were injured
were TAKEN with us To - hospital IN VILLAGY, ANSTRIA
H Nd THAT WHS THE LAST Time we SAW THEM.
(I NOT Remember THeir Names/py posiTion)
ONe had A bad CUT NITE DACK OF head +A DROKEN Leg.
THE OTHER5(2)4Ad CUTS ANd MAY be broken bonks
14. Please give any similar information on personnel of any other crew of which you
have knowledge. Indicate source of information. No Knowledge
(Any additional information may be written on the back)
OVER
6-3862,AF

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Casualty questionnaire, page 14: WILSON, Charles H · 20 April 1945
PDA-11
File # 18819
INDIVIDUAL CASUALTY QUESTIONNAIRE
Name of crew member:
WILSON, Charles H.
Rank:
s/Sgt.
Serial number:
$5 225 754
Position: Crew (Bomber)
Left Waist Gunner
Did he bail out? No
Where?
If not, why not' ? CREW VOTED TO STAY WITH THE PLANE
Last contact or conversation just prior to or at time of loss of plane : I WENT BACK
BEFARE
To RADIO ROOM AND COULDN'T CROWD IN, DUE TO RCM EQUIPMENT.
Was he injured? HE DIED ABOUT it To 2HRS. AFTER THE CRASH
Where was he when last seen?
Any hearsay information: CATHOLIC PRIEST IN MARIA ELAND PROMISED
(WILSON)
To BURY HIM BESIDE HIS CHURCH
Source:
Any explanation of his fate based in part or wholly on supposition: WAS INJURED
INTERNALLY AND WAS LOSING BLOOD FROM A LARGE CUT IN HIS
HEAD AS WELL AS HIS MOUTH. WE WERE NOT PERMITTED TO GIVE
FIRST Aip AND THE GERMANS DID A GOOD JOB OF IGNORNING
TOVER)
US WHEN WE ASKED FOR A DOCTOR. THEY WOULDN'T ALLOW AN ARMY
Total number of missions of above crew member: HAD APPROXIMATELY 30
Dates and destinations if possible:
6-3861, AF

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Casualty questionnaire, page 16: Martin J · 20 April 1945
AFPPA- 11
File , 138.19
INDIVIDUAL CASUALTY QUESTIONNAIRE
Name of crew member:
Martin J.
Rank:
s/sgte
Serial number:
87 575 731
Position: Crew (Bomber)
Did he bail out? No
Where?
If not, why not? CREW JOTED TO STAY WITH THE PLANE
Last contact or conversation just prior to or at time of loss of plane:
Was he injured? HE WAS PROBABLY KILLED INSTANTLY
Where was he when last seen?
Any hearsay information: GERMANS MOVED WRECKAGE AND FOUND HIS
MANGLED BODY TRAPPED BENEATH
Source:
Any explanation of his fate based in part or wholly on supposition: WAS SITTING
NEAREST TO BALL TURRET, SHIP SA SPLIT IN TWO IN CENTER OF
RADIO Room, WE DIDN'T LOCATE HIMATALL AFTER WE HIT EARTH.
(CATHOUC)
GERMANS PRODULED HIS DOG TAGS. PRIEST IN MARIA ELAND PROMISED
TO BURY HIM BESIDE HIS CHURCH.
Total number of missions of above crew member: HAD APPROXIMATELY 30
Dates and destinations if possible:
6-3861, AF

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Casualty questionnaire, page 17: RAYMOND S. KOSINSKI · 20 April 1945
AAPPPA-12
CASUALTY QUESTIONNAIRE
1. Your name RAYMOND S. KOSINSKI
Rank 1STLT. Serial No. 0-722498
2. Organization 483 Gp Commander P.L. BARTON Rank COL. Sqn CO A. FOWLER Rank MAJOR
(full name)
(full name)
3. What year
1945
month APRIL
day 20
did you go down?
4. What was the mission, BOMBING
, target, FORTEZZA m/y
, target
time, ABOUT 12:30
,altitude, 27, 500'
route scheduled,
, ,route flown
5. Where were you when you left formation? APRREX. 1/2 HOVE FROM TARGET N. of VILLACH
6. Did you bail out?
No
7. Did other members of crew bail out? No
8. Tell all you know about when, where, how each person in your aircraft for whom no
individual questionnaire is attached bailed out. A crew list is attached. Please
give facts. If you don't know, say: "No Knowledge".
9. Where did your aircraft strike the ground? ABOUT 2 MILES FROM MARIAELAND, AUSTRIA
10. What members of your crew were in the aircraft when it struck the ground? (Should
cross check with 8 above and individual questionnaires) All 10 MEN.
BOMB. + ENG. ON FLIGHT DECK
11. Where were they in aircraft? NAVIGATOR AND FIVE E.M. IN RADIO Room
12. What was their condition?
13. When, where, and in what condition did you last see any members not already des-
cribed above? ONLY WE FOUR UP FRONT ON THE FLIGHT DECK
WERE
ABLE
TO
WALK
AWAY
FROM
THE
PLANE.
RADIO
MAN
(HAJJAR)
CAME To AND WAS IN FAIRLY GOOD CONDITION so THA - HE
HELPED WITH THE OTHER MEN WHEN WE MOVED THEM TWO HOURS LATER
IT WAS 8 HOURS BEFORE A DUCTUR TOUCHED ANY INJURED MAN. ABOUT
16 HOURS TILL WE PUT 3 / N THE HOSPITAL AT KLAGENFURT, AUSTRIA
14. Please give any similar information on personnel of any other crew of which you
have knowledge. Indicate source of information.
(Any additional information may be written on the back)
6-3862, AF

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Casualty questionnaire, page 18: WILSON, Charles H · 20 April 1945
AFPPA-11
File # 15819
INDIVIDUAL CASUALTY QUESTIONNAIRE
pe
Name of crew member:
WILSON, Charles H.
Rank:
s/Sgt.
Serial number:
35 225 754
Position: Crew (Bomber)
Left Waist Gunner
Did he bail out? NO
Where?
If not, why not' ? PILOT DECIDED SAFE LANDING COULD BE MADE - CREW
HAD CHOICE - DECIDED TO STAY WITH SHIP
Last contact or conversation just prior to or at time of loss of plane: WILSON
SAT or MY ME RIGHT IN DITCHING POSITION IN RADIO ROOM
Was he injured? KILLED
Where was he when last seen?
Any hearsay information: 4 GERMAN SOLDIER CAMETO THE HOSPITAL
A FEW DAYS LATER WITH INFORMATION THAT WILSON of
GLYAN HRD BEEN BURIED IN A CHURCH CEMETARY A FEW
MILES FROM VELDEN, AUSTRIA
Source:
Any explanation of his fate based in part or wholly on supposition: / WAS
INJURED AND IN A SHOCKED CONDITION FOR 10 Hands AFTER
THE CRASH so KNEW HERY LITTLE OF WHAT TOOK PLACE. THE
INFIRMATION / RESEIVED ABOUT THE DEATHS OF WILSON YGLYNN
GAME FROM THE PILOT LT.KEEN LATER THAT WIGHT
Total number of missions of above crew member: OVER 20 L BELIEVE
Dates and destinations if possible: IT WHS MY 1st MISSION WITH
THIS CREW so KNEW NOTHING OF THEIR PREVIOUS
FLIGHTS.
6-3861, AF

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Casualty questionnaire, page 19: GLYMN, Martin J · 20 April 1945
AFPPA-1)
File # 13819
INDIVIDUAL CASUALTY QUESTIONNAIRE
Name of crew member:
GLYMN, Martin J.
Rank:
s/sgt.
Serial number:
87 575 701
Position: Crew (Bomber)
Ball Gunner
Did he bail out? No
Where?
If not, why not?
Last contact or conversation just prior to or at time of lose of plane: GLYNN
SAT IN RADAR OPERATORS CHAIR AT TIME OF CRASH
Was he injured? KILLED
Where was he when last seen?
Any hearsay information:
SAME AS FOR WILSON
Source
Any explanation of his fate based in part or wholly on supposition:
Total number of missions of above crew member: UNKNOWN
Dates and destinations if possible:
6-3861, AF

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Casualty questionnaire, page 20: SAMHEL MACKEY JR · 20 April 1945
AFPPA-12
CASUALTY QUESTIONNAIRE
1.
Your name SAMHEL MACKEY JR
Rank 1st l t Serial No. 0-718369
483 BOME GP
2. Organization
Gp Commander BARTON RankCob Sqn CO BROOKS Rank MAJOR
(full name)
(full name)
Jo What year 1945
month APRIL
day 20
did you 80 down?
4. What was the mission, BOMBING
9 target, FORTESA ITALY
, target
time, 1215 APRROK.
,altitude, 22, 000
route scheduled, WOULD
MEED MAPS
, route flown as SCHEDWLED
5. Where were you when you left formation? NEAR LEINZ AUST. 30 MILES WEST
NORTH WEST OF VILLACH AUSTRIA
6. Did you bail out? NO
7. Did other members of crew bail out? NO
8. Tell all you know about when, where, how each person in your aircraft for whom no
individual questionnaire is attached bailed out. A crew list is attached. Please
give facts. If you don't know, say: "No Knowledge".
9.
Where
did
your
aircraft
strike
the
ground?
ABOUT
10
MILES
SOUTH
OF
VELDEN
AUST.
15 MILES SOUTHEAST OF VILLACH AUSTRIA
10.
What members of your crew were in the aircraft when it struck the ground? (Should
cross check with 8 above and individual questionnaires) ALL MEMBERS
11.
Where
were
they
in
aircraft?
SIX
IN
RADIO
ROOM
FOWR
INPILOT
COMPARTMENT
INCLUDING PILOT- COPILOT BOMBARDIER of ENGINEER
12. What was their condition? BACK OF PAGE
13.
When, where, and in what condition did you last see any members not already des-
cribed above?
14. Please give any similar information on personnel of any other crew of which you
have knowledge. Indicate source of information.
No KNOWLEDGE
(Any additional information may be written on the back)
6-3862, AF

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Casualty questionnaire, page 22 · 20 April 1945
\AFEPA-11
File # 13819
INDIVIDUAL CASUALTY QUESTIONNAIRE
Nama of grew member:
WILSON, Charles h.
Rank:
s/Sgt.
Serial number:
35 225 754
Position: Crew (Bomber)
Left Waist Gunner
Did he bail out?
No
Where?
TH .
OPPORTUNITY To OUT
If not, why not? CRASH LAMDED WITH PLAWE - AT HIS
own
DECISION - WAS GIVEN A
Last contact or conversation just prior to or at time of loss of plane:
"LEFT WAIST OFF INTERPHINE."
Was he injured?
YES - SERIOUSLY - LATER DIED OF HEAD INJURIES I BÉLIEVE,
Where was he when last seen?
LYING UNDER RIGHT WING OF WRECK.
Any hearsay information:
NONE . I WAS AM ACTUAL OBSERVER.
Source:
Any explanation of his fate based in part : wholly on supposition: As PILOT I was THE
ONLY ONE ALLOWED FIRST ) TO SEE AND HELD INSURED CREW
I would so. WAS DUE TO MULTIPLE NEM INJvRIES - BLEEDING AT
MOVTN NOSE AND EANS WAS NOTED - AND TIME ABOUT P.M. I WAS PRESENT
WWEN BREATHING AND STOPPED. BODY LATER was FELT AND COLD TO Teeca.
Total number of missions of above crew member: I AM NOT SURE - ABOUT 20 OR 22.
Dates and destinations if possible: THE ABOVE HAPPENED APRIL 20. 1945
EASY
ABOUT
A MILE OR So OF MARIE ELAND, AUSTRIA - T#E TOWN,
Acress THE RIVER OR CREEK A HALF MILE OR MORE ALONG THE ROAD
AND THEN TO THE LEFT IN FIELD TWO FARM HOUSES.
I REMEMBER Two CIVILIANS CLEARLY:
1. A MAN - 30-35 yeme - STIFF KNEE - APPE4RED AT SCENE IN A vexy
FEW 6-3861, AF
2. A Bov ON - 18-20yrs. - T° SPEAK AND
THAKER WITH VS UNTIL PORSIDDEN TO >o se.

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Casualty questionnaire, page 23 · 20 April 1945
ATRPA-11
File # 13819
INDIVIDUAL CASUALTY QUESTIONNAIRE
Name of prew member
GLYNN, Martin J.
Rank:
s/Sgt.
Serial number:
37 575 701
Position: Crew (Bomber)
Ball Gunner
Did he bail out?
No
Where?
-
THE To 2414 OOT.
If not, why not? CRASH LANDED WITH PLANE - AT HIS own DECISION - WAS GIVENA
Last contact or conversation just prior to or at time of loss of plane:
a
" O.K. SKIPPER - BALL TURREY OFF INTERPHONE."
Was he injured? YES - SERIOUSLY
Where was he when last seen? SEEN BY MYSELF IN WAIST - BY OTNERS IN RABIO Roem
Any hearsay information: OTHER CREW MEMBERS AFTERWARD STATED NE
WAS IN HIS CRASN POSITION IN RADIO ROOM.
Source : S/S cr. E.E. HANAR L.T. MACKEY (NAVICATOR)
Any explanation of his fate based in part or wholly on supposition: A search For
His BODY PROVED NOPENESS - WE PRESUMED HE was CRUSHED To
DEATH UNDER THE CRASHED PLANE. GERMAN AUTHORITIES LATER
SHOWED ME His DOC TAGS AND INDICATED THEY NAD FOUND HIS
CRUSHED BODY UNDER THE PLANE,
Total number of missions of above crew member: I am NOT SURE - ABout 20 to 22
Dates and destinations if possible: THE ABOVE HAPPENED APRIL 20, 1945
EAST
ABOUT A MILE OR so
OF MARIE ELAND, AUSTRIA - THROUGH THE
TOWN ACROSS THE RIVER ORCREEK - A AALE MILE OR MORE ALONG THE Rond
AND
THEN
TO
THE
LEFT
IN
A
FIELD
TWO
6-3861, AF

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Casualty questionnaire, page 24: CLARENCE MILBURN KEEN JR · 20 April 1945
AFPPA-12
CASUALTY QUESTIONNAIRE
1. Your name
CLARENCE MILBURN KEEN JR. Rank 1st LT. Serial No. 0-826899
483 3.G
2. Organization 840B. Sa. Gp Commander UN KNOWN Rank - Sqn CO ALFA FULLER Rank CAPT
(full name)
(full name)
3. What year
1945
month APRIL day 20 did you go down?
ITALY
4. What was the mission, BOMBING (+30fr myself) target, RAILYARDS on BRENNER Pass Roore target TO
time, between 12:0/330 altitude, above 20,000 (not sure) route scheduled, NORTH ACROSS
ADRIATIC of YUDOSAAUIA To route flown ALONG INDICATED, PLANNED ROUTE
TYALY - wesr To TARGET.
5. Where were you when you left formation? #7 position in our box
6.
Did you bail out?
No - CRASH LANDED
7. Did other members of crew bail out?
No - GIVEN OPPORTUNITY BUT NOT
ORDERED To,
8.
Tell all you know about when, where, how each person in your aircraft for whom no
individual questionnaire is attached bailed out. A crew list is attached. Please
give facts. If you don't know, say: "No Knowledge". NONE JUMPED - ALL CRASM
LANDED WITH THE PLANE. NAVIGATOR (LT. MACKEY), RIGHT WHIST (S/Sqt. I. J.
DOBBIE) AND TAIL GUNNER (S/Sg W. 2IMPFER) WERE ALL INJURED AND WE
Took
THEM To A HOSPITAL AT VILLACH AUSTRIA THEY WERE ALL LIBERATED
T. MY BEST 1-2 Mises
9. Where did your aircraft strike the ground? east of Marie Eland, AUSTRIA (across
not that far away)
or
10. What members of your crew were in the aircraft when it struck the ground? (Should
cross check with 8 above and individual questionnaires) TEN MEMBERS - PILOT,
Co-pilot NAVIGATOR BOMZARDIER, ENGINEER , RADIO, BALL TURRET GUNNER,
RIGHT WAIST CUNNER LEFT WAIST GUNNER, TAIL GUNNER.
PILOT BEMBARDIER - IN Prears
11.
Where were they in aircraft? COMPARTMENT -ALL OTHERS IN CRASN POSITION IN TNE
RADIO ROOM.
12. What was their condition? EVERYONE ALL RIGNT -No INJURIES - ALL NORMAL
13. When, where, and in what condition did you last see any members not already des-
cribed above? SEE REVERSE SIDE.
14. Please give any similar information on personnel of any other crew of which you
have knowledge. Indicate source of information.
(Any additional information may be written on the back)
6-3862, AF

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Casualty questionnaire, page 26: Charlos H · 20 April 1945
AFFPA- 11
File # 15819
INDIVIDUAL CASUALTY QUESTIONNAIRE
Name of crew member :
Charlos H.
Rank:
s/Sgt.
Serial number:
85 225 754
Position: Crew (Bomber)
Left Haist Guener
Did he bail out?
No
Where?
-
If not, why not?
By CHOICE
Last contact or conversation just prior to or at time of loss of plane HE
PILOT CALLED FOR HELP (WILSON WAS BESIDE ME BEFORE THE CRASH)
Was he injured?
KILLED
Where was he when last seen? UNDER THE WING OF THE SHIP
Any hearsay information: THE INFORMATION RECIEVED WAS THAT
HE WAS DEAD AND WAS buRIED AROUND APRIL 25 1945
WITH 5/sgt GLYNN , MARTIN J.
Source: : GERMAN DOCTOR AT PRISON HOSPITAL VELDEN, AUSTRIA
Any explanation of his fate based in part or wholly on supposition:
HE WAS FOUND DEAD UNDER THE Wing of THE BombER
Total number of missions of above crew member: 23 COMbAT MISSIONS
Dates and destinations if possible: SAME AS MY missions SAVE
MY FIRST MISSIONS
LIST AND DATES INCLOSED
6-3861, AF

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Casualty questionnaire, page 27: GLYNA, Martin J · 20 April 1945
AFFAR 11
INDIVIDUAL CASUALTY QUESTIONNAIRE
Name of crew member:
GLYNA, Martin J.
Rank:
s/sgt.
Serial number:
87 575 901
Position: Crew (Bomber) Boll Sack Gunner
Did he bail out?
No
Where?
If not, why not? By CHOICE
Last contact or conversation just prior to or at time of loss of plane: PILOTCALLED
FOR HELP - GLYNN WAS IN THE RCM. CHAIR BEFORE THE CRASH
Was he injured?
KILLED
Where was he when last seen? IN RADIO Room
Any hearsay information: HE (INFORMATION OR GUESS OF NAVIGATOR
1st LT SAM MACKEY 1 WAS KILLED By BALL TURRET , WHEN
BombER HIT THE BALL CAME FORWARD INTO RADIO
ROOM. HEWAS buried AROUND THE 25th OF APRIL, 1945
WITH slagt WILSON CHAS. H.
Source:
GERMAN DOCTOR AT PRISON HOSPITAL UELDEN AUSTRIA
Any explanation of his fate based in part or wholly on supposition:
HE WAS FOUND DEAD IN RADIO Room
Total number of missions of above crew member:
28
Dates and destinations if possible: SAME AS my MISSIONS SAVE
MY 10TH (THEN HEWAS D.N.LF.) LISTAND DATES INCLOSED
6-3861, AF

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Casualty questionnaire, page 28: Dobbie IRA JAMES · 20 April 1945
AFPPA-12
CASUALTY QUESTIONNAIRE
1. Your name
Dobbie IRA JAMES Rank 5/sat Serial No. 33743333
2. Organization 483B68 P. Commander
840 BS.
Rank
Sqn CO AA.FALOWERank MaJOR
(full name)
(full name \
3. What year 1945
month APRIL
day 20
did you go down?
4. What was the mission, 24th
, target, FORT1220 IT.
, target
time,
altitude,
route scheduled,
, route flown
5. Where were you when you left formation? RUSTRO-GERMAN BORDER
6. Did you bail out?
NO
7. Did other me. Jers of crew bail out? No
8. Tell all you know about when, where, how each person in your aircraft for whom no
individual questionnaire is attached bailed out. A crew list is attached. Please
give facts. If you don't know, say: "No Knowledge".
9. Where did your aircraft strike the ground? VELDEN AUSTRIA
10. What members of your crew were in the aircraft when it struck the ground? (Should
cross check with 8 above and individual questionnaires) ALL CREW MEMBERS
WERE IN THE SHIP
11. Where were they in aircraft? IN RADIO Room & PILOT'S SECTION (B-176)
12. What was their condition? BEFORE THE CRASH ALL u ERE WELL
13. When, where, and in what condition did you last see any members not already des-
cribed
above? EVERYONE WAS IN THE DITCHING POSSITION
14. Please give any similar information on personnel of any other crew of which you
have knowledge. Indicate source of information.
(Any additional information may be written on the back)
6-3862,AF

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